H.I. No. 55: Element Zod

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"Element Zod"
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Episode no.55
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Original release dateJanuary 13, 2016 (2016-01-13)
Running time1:38:29
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"H.I. #55: Element Zod" is the 55th episode of Hello Internet, released on January 13, 2016.[1]

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Brady & Grey discuss when one is half way to death, the cult of Star Wars spoilers, darts, the results of the Hello Internet flag referendum, hotstoppers, the naming of new elements, and updates on the FITOTRON 5000 lifestyle.

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Go on do it one day, I'll do you You dare me, I don't don't dare you Can't turn down the double dog dare Instead of our usual clap scribe I'm gonna give you a different noise. Are you ready? Why do you? It will still give you nice peaks on the way form Well last time we did this you give me some horrible sound that did not give me nice nice peaks Even listen to this is confident about it. Listen to this and see if you can guess what it is. Okay Okay, first of all like that's not a nice peak sound. It's mushy already No, but you can you can see three distinct lines on your waveform so you can clearly sync up with that I'm doing I am hitting the microphone with one of my Christmas presents. Oh, yeah Which is my meteorite who gave you a meteorite? It was from my wife Oh, that's very nice and it sits on my desk in a little box on a little velvet pillow And whenever I want when I feel like I want inspiration I can just reach down and hold a piece of space in my hand Yeah, does that help you do get inspired by holding space in your hand? I would say not so much But it but it does feel very nice and you know I like fiddling with things and it's and it's it's weighty and it's Interesting textured and it looks cool. So it brings me pleasure I'm happy that it brings you pleasure and I would much rather have you fiddling meteorites Then just before we started recording you have what looked to me like new soundproofing equipment in front of you to sound nicer on the microphone and you were fiddling with the soundproofing to make the sound proofing Make noise it's just it was like an astounding thing to watch you do so I would much prefer that you fiddle with the meteorite But I love that you make the thing that is there to make less sound you make it make more sound with your fiddling Yeah, we have to let people hear it now This is what it sounds like when I rub my finger along the soundproofing Yeah, yeah, this is this this people is what he was doing just while he was talking to me Just rubbing his fingers against the lovely soundproofing So play with play with your meteorite Brady. You're such a filler great if you are more interesting and engaging I wouldn't be looking elsewhere for distractions. Oh, yes, I'm sure that's what it is That's what it is you you are just Solid as a rock right motionless like like a like a marble statue when you're talking to someone more engaging than I I have a high capacity to take in Stefan do Stefan. Mm-hmm. You're not you're not satisfying me Gray Right, I'm just not stimulating enough for you You're like an artificial intelligence and yeah talking to me is just occupying a tiny part of your brain Exactly like you're talking and like years of passing in my brain Speaking of years passing happy 2016 and all that yeah happy 2016 Brady How did you see in the new year? Oh? Really okay, okay, because I know this is gonna infuriate you. Oh, no, I went to sleep No joke three minutes before the changeover New year and the worst thing is in our current apartment we have a nice view to the sky and London so we could theoretically see all the fireworks or I say theoretically because of course my wife did see all the fireworks 1157 I was sitting on the couch and thinking I'm just too tired to stay up anymore and I went to bed Okay, that is a bit sad then if you just fell asleep fair enough But you actually consciously said I cannot sit here for three more minutes. I'm walking to my bed now Yeah, I got into bed and I closed my eyes and I sort of heard the fireworks as I drifted off to sleep almost immediately I think that has to be a Record for me of the closest I have ever come to the new years change over without actually making it to the other side I mean that doesn't infuriate me, but it is a bit tragic isn't it like to be so close and you could have just had a look I think that's tragic to stay up when you're tired Yeah, okay, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue with you. I mean I think people I think it's becoming bit of a Trendy thing now to say oh I did nothing or I went to sleep and stuff So I mean this is not uncommon now I think people almost wear it as a badge of honor to say oh I did nothing for new year You know new years so overrated and so overhyped so I just stayed in and watched you in a TV and went to bed at 10 30 Yeah, I watched house of cards So is that the voice that they use when they say this? Yeah, that's that's pretentious voice Oh, I can't I can't be doing with new year. Oh gosh I prefer to celebrate the Nepalese New Year in May. I like this new voice of yours At least it's a little bit of a variety variety from nerd voice. I'm the man of a thousand voices Yeah, well, I know of two now, so yeah, okay I'm the man of two voices, but that doesn't sound quite as cool. No, it doesn't sound quite as cool What about you Brady? How did you ring in the new year? I? Rung in the new year in a Ready Maroon velvet jacket. Oh wow Partying in the Moulin Rouge in Paris. That is quite the contrast It is quite I've show didn't start until midnight. Oh God really we had like a fancy dinner and like Cabaret singing which was which was fun and then at new year they came up on stage the sort of the hosts They actually came on at like five past which everyone knew because we all had iPhones So we already knew they'd missed the new year, but at about five past twelve They did they did this foe countdown from 10 9 8 7 which just started arbitrarily when they felt like it and then there was like you know Pyro techniques and that and then like the Moulin Rouge show started for two hours of you know glamorous people dancing around with far too little clothes on and people swimming with snakes and jugglers and my martis and all the crazy cappness that is a Moulin Rouge show and then there was a bit of dancing with masks and crazy hats and horns and Then back to the hotel that does sound like quite the new years. It was much better than I expected That's quite the new year Brady. That's quite the new year while you slept. I was spilling Not one but two glasses of champagne all over my wife's lovely dress. Oh nice. Oh nice. I was it was a little bit cramped at those tables and I was a bit clumsy But she was cool. She has to be living with the caveman. Yeah You go someplace fancy Brady spills champagne all over yeah and Christmas was a bit of a rite off because of work reasons, but but I said Christmas was celebrated on boxing day with the grays Yes, it was lovely. It was lovely. We got together for Christmas in London boxing Yeah, but it's Christmas enough. It's the whole Christmas season Christmas dinner walk the dogs Watched a bit of rubbish TV put the world to write so whatever it is when you just talk about rubbish for hours It was one of those just enjoyable days of just hanging out together and just eating a lovely dinner It was it was very nice. It was a very nice boxing day to spend with the Brady's The Brady's I like that Now do you have any big plans for 2016 Brady? Is there anything big happening in 2016 that you want to talk about? 2016 is is gonna be an official year of fun for me with lots of cool travels and adventures And I want to travel more and see more stuff and why is it going to be the year of fun for you Brady? Because it just is yeah, yeah, it's that whole yeah, that's what we're just gonna leave it at Yeah, yeah And we're not talking about birthdays or anything like that. Oh, okay, so All right, all right, but it's the year of fun. It's a year of fun For no particular reason and no particular reason not anything anything bigger anything. No No nothing big ceaseless approach of death Every year is it you're closer to this it is completely unrelated to this discussion about birthdays Do you have an opinion about when middle age officially starts? That is a thing that Constantly shifts as you get older Mm-hmm. I'm at a point now where middle age starts in ten years all the time right It's like it's ten years away and it's and it's moving at one year per year away away from that It will never be caught and it is not getting closer either I feel that that is intellectually dishonest but also entirely understandable Wendy believe it starts Mr. Rational and no revolve 40 has to be Middle age I think that that's probably the best time to put it and really 40 is being somewhat optimistic Because most people don't actually live until 80 you live slightly younger than that So maybe like 39 maybe even 38 is middle age, but I think by the time you're 40 there's no there's no denying it anymore. That's middle age So you're defining middle age to almost what it says on the tin middle yeah the midpoint of life I'm taking this totally crazy path of Assuming that the word means what it means which is the middle of of your age See I think I could main different things and do you count those first ten years in your equations? And you know is it the middle of your adult life? Is it the middle is it just the middle of the number of days your heart has been beating? I don't know I think 40 works both ways that right because okay when people are in their 40s This is usually at the period of time where if they have a family they're going to have a family Like when I think when I was a kid all of the parents that I knew they were all in their 40s And it seems like oh this is this middle phase of a human's life like you were a kid And then you grew up and you were a young adult for a while and now when you have a family and you're in your 40s That's middle age and then immediately after middle age comes death That's how immediately I've right there's no there's not a there's not like a sort of a sunset period or anything It's just middle age and then bang against the wall. Yeah, it's all it's all over it's all over after that That's how that works So having Clarified where middle age is what should one's attitude beta reaching middle ages? Is this a time of celebration? Is it a time of mourning? Is it just a Meh what should one think when one reaches the age of 40? I Don't know I I Have no idea. I'm not there yet. Well neither am I I didn't say that you were Brady. I didn't say that you were The thing is you should probably you should probably find someone in middle age I'll just like the general you not you but like you know you dear listener should find someone middle age And ask them what what they think about that because you can't you can't like speculate in the future It's just like oh I could give advice to people who were younger than me But it's hard to give advice to people who are older than me. So Yeah, I think I mean we should we should hear from our audience. What should people in middle age think? That's an interesting thing you just said there though does advice only flow down Can young people not advise I mean of course they can advise old people But can young people legitimately advise older people or can advice only flow from the old to the young? I'm thinking in terms of general life advice there's some term for it, but it does seem to be that people go through Different psychological experiences learn like in sections of decades as they grow older And I think for that kind of thing you can only talk to someone who is older than you when who has gone through it I was just reading this article Which was talking about human happiness over the course of life and how it does seem to follow a You shape that you're happier when you're younger happiness seems to minimize in the middle of your life in the term middle age Sort of in your forties, let's say and then after you are forties it goes up But that it's it's very common for People in middle age to have this feeling of oh Is this all there is to my life or like knowing that it's unlikely that they're going to have another big career change or something like that So I think for for this kind of general life advice it can only flow Downhill I think like when I was in my 20s I went through a kind of I think the cool kids these days called a quarter life crisis where I remember in my early 20s having a real feeling of like oh god what is going to happen with my life I'm just Unemployed and I have no idea what I'm going to do and I feel like oh If I was talking to someone in their 20s I might have useful things to say to that person But I have nothing useful to say to someone in their forties like I wouldn't be able to Necessarily advise them I think they would need to talk to someone in their 50s who would who had gone through Whatever they're going through do you think maybe it's not possible that When you get older you sort of forget things or you like you're your hard drive and you're Get so cluttered with rubbish you forget certain things or can no longer access certain things that the young people can And they could sort of say to you you know what you should try this in this and the old person might say Oh I forgot what it was like to think like that and you're right They're just good advice that will help me out of this situation We do know that brains decay as time goes on right that you're just Slowly falling apart as time goes on. Yeah, I don't know. I think there is something about The Experiences that someone has been through just as general life advice That you have to talk to someone who was older. I mean yeah I mean your experience can I you go up as long as you don't forget at all which you do It's interesting to hear that you think I'm pretty much getting to the bottom of the you I didn't say anything about your age in particular You are saying that you're going to the bottom of you. I feel like I I'm quite happy. Yeah, maybe I'm just happy this week because I've tiredied my desk and cleared my desktop on my computer and I've gone to the gym a bit and Yes, maybe you're asking maybe this is a bad time to ask me and I'm just feeling unusually happy today. Yeah Yeah, but you feel happy in general reading Yeah, I'm feeling pretty happy today. Do you feel more happy than 10 years ago? I Would say like what were you doing 10 years ago? I was working at the BBC Living in Nottingham when I was happy. I was happy But I feel like I can do more now like I feel more free now. Mm-hmm I feel more in control of my own life now. Mm-hmm Mm-hmm I have I have like more responsibilities and pressures now. That's true But at the moment I'm on top of them. So I'm with I'm willing to I'm willing to pay that price for all the other goodness. So I think things are okay at the moment But okay, but do you think you're happier now than 10 years ago? It's a very hard thing to say but I don't know how to measure happiness uh But I would say Oh, I don't know great. I don't know. I'm making my brain explode Let's talk about it another episode. This is interesting. I need to think more about it. Yeah You think you think about it. We'll do we'll run the standard scientific test on you here, which is I will randomly text you or no. I'll have some robot do it. I'll set up a program to randomly text you And all hours of the day and ask you how happy are you right now? And you can reply on a on a one to 10 scale That's that's how that's all right But you can't measure that against the 10 years ago, Brady because you didn't do that then No, yeah, that's true For the next 10 years of your life. I'll have a robot randomly text you Constantly and asking how happy you are And then we can compare to see if you 10 years from now is happier or sadder than you now Except I'll always be unhappy because no matter what mood I mean I'll be pissed off that I've got another text that I've got to answer exactly it This is this is of course the observer effect The instant I ask you you get irritated and less happy all right, so I guess we better start the show Are we starting the show now? Yeah, we'll start the show now I'll tell you what I will be in middle-aged by the time the show gets started This episode of Hello Internet is brought to you by your friends at backblaze Backblaze is an online backup service for all of your data Your photographs your documents whatever digital files you work on on your computer Backblaze will automatically back them up for you These guys are the experts they have over 150 petabytes of other people's data backed up saved securely in the cloud and they've restored over 10 billion files for their computers. 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This is the point at which I have to ask who is Kaiser Seisei The usual suspects. He's the mysterious. Oh Oh, looks okay. Yeah spoilers territory very fast here seems like oh yeah, but I mean that's that's that's unspoilable that film now That's like that film that that film is all about that's like I see dead people territory for unspoilable now Oh, yeah, yeah, you've made that judgment If there are a couple of films where the twist is so famous that that's all the film is it's it's usual suspects isn't it and I see dead people anyway But I still I still haven't spoiled anything Okay, really speaking of spoilers. Mm-hmm. I do want to talk about something about spoilers. Yeah You know, you know, I love talking about spoilers. I will talk about spoilers all day We're not gonna spoil anything but right now by the way for people so don't worry. Yeah, no, no Not gonna say I see dead people or anything. Yeah Like I said, that's unspoilable And Brady has declared it You know where to send your complaints Surely surely there's like a statute of limitations to unspoilers. No, there's not a statute of limitations on spoilers I fundamentally disagree with that very notion You know new people are born every day brand new people Manufactured who have not seen the six cents You know that right like they exist Of course So there can't there can't be an expiration date. Yeah, but okay, and also let's not tell them how word war two ended either That's not Fucking spoiled Brady God I'm just winding you up You should be immune to wind ups like that, but yeah, that was just a throw away wind up I didn't even think that I get a bite I can't believe it if you're if you're that easy to wind up today I've got plenty more in the tech you've shown me your exhaust port oh death star great Now I know where to fire the torpedoes Anyway, I want to talk to you about spoilers. Okay, what do you want to talk about in the wake of our star wars episode? I've I've now been listening to a few more reviews and podcasts and things about star wars I didn't listen to any or have anything to do anything any until we recorded ours. Yeah, we intentionally Both didn't read any reviews or listen to anything before recording our star wars show because That kind of stuff can influence your own thoughts and we wanted to go in pure to our recording of of the show But yes as soon as as soon as we had finished recording I too was like oh boy now I can listen to all the other podcasts about star wars I'll tell you what Gray we'd need and have bothered almost every single one of this and too so far may as well be an exact Readrun of what we did I was almost annoyed by how similar or even all the phrasing was that's what makes things interesting is to see Like this is a movie that has Remarkable consensus is that good like even when the criticisms are the same like the praise and the criticisms are the same Is that the sign of a good film? Where's that sign of a safe boring film? Is that the sign of a clever film? I mean what what do you read into the fact that everyone feels the same way about almost everything? Maybe maybe you could say that it is an indication of a bit of a safe film I'm not sure that consensus is an indication one way or the other It is just a thing that with movies sometimes across the spectrum people's opinions line up about it It's a good movie or it's not a good movie or it's a good movie except for this part. So I'm not willing to say that consensus in and of itself is is A bad or a positive indicator, but it is it is remarkable with Star Wars and I was super aware of that as well like man Every one of these podcasts is hitting the exact same points as yes I'm not saying consent like if everyone thinks a film is good That's probably a sign. It's a good film But what I'm what the consensus that kind of almost worries me a bit is the the detail of it how everyone agrees on everything Like it's it's almost a bit strange and everyone's interpreting the same things the same way And the same the same little minor criticisms are the same Maybe it's a sign that we listen to the podcast by people that are too similar to us I don't know but or it's just an expression of the nerd mind in its various places Different people with with different nerd minds like still come to the same conclusions So anyway the one thing that is starting to get on my nerves a little bit and I know that I'm a bit biased here Because I did have the main twist of Star Wars Spoil would for me But I don't think this is why I'm about to say what I'm saying I'm getting a little bit annoyed by this cult of spoiler avoidance How people who managed to see it without being spoiled and who didn't watch any of the trailers and Didn't go on Twitter for eight months before the film because they didn't want anything ruined a kind of like speaking as if they see the film through Superior eyes because they were pure and untainted and I don't know I think they're coming across like a bit cockish. I feel like you're talking about me because I did all these things like I Yeah, I'm not I'm not well. I'm gonna keep talking in a way that you might think I'm talking about you But I'm not talking about you here, but okay, but you may project it onto you and okay And the other thing is the people who were doing it Like some of the extremes they went to to avoid spoilers like they stopped Communicating with their friends and and they completely shut down areas of their life like you know social media parts of their life and they went to these extreme measures and if you were describing a cult Two of the things you would say about people who have joined a cult would be their real zealots and the feel really superior about the thing they're doing and They're starting to act really strangely to their friends and cutting off their friends And that's what these sort of cult of spoiler people are doing. I think they like them I've been listening to a few podcasts and like people are constantly talking about They're talking about how they avoided spoilers more than they're talking about the film And I don't think you have that superior and experience like like not knowing is nice and it's and it's a nice surprise But I still seeing the same film I can't even remember if I knew the twist of the Empire of the Empire Strikes Back when I saw the film I can't remember if I already knew the thing I won't say because people have been born I haven't seen Empire Strikes Back and Green. Why not let me there you go But yeah, but when that amazing thing happens in Empire Strikes Back I can't remember if it was spoiled for me or not But I still remember thinking Empire Strikes Back was awesome So I don't think you have to have to see a film Pure and virginal to enjoy the film and I think all these people who manage to avoid the spoilers You know, I'm happy for you and I'm happy you enjoyed the film But get off your high horse I don't think cults normally have definitive endpoints where you engage in cultist behavior until exactly someday And then oh, okay, never again cult is a little bit It's a little bit overflowing here. Well, maybe It is a bit weird. Yeah, but you're lucky that this this is like a once in a lifetime Phenomenon right like I don't think this is gonna be even remotely as intense The second for the second movie when it comes out I will and I'm sure other people will want to avoid spoilers for the second movie But I think it's just totally different when it's the first one and it's been you know a decade and a half since the last I think this is just unique in your life Brady. So you never have to worry about it again Hmm, we'll say don't let these cult members bother you. We'll say although you are one of those people great Can I just say you are one of the lesser-knowing ones? You've got your little peculiar things about you and one of them was your Your spoiler avoidance with this film, but you weren't annoying I'm glad to know that for you at least I was less annoying I will still just say in in defense of avoiding spoilers for all kinds of movies that the experience of watching a thing With knowing as little about it as you can is different from all of the subsequent watchings of a movie And I think that's that's the thing that people are trying to protect like of course you'll watch a movie again When you've seen it the first time and you think oh Like I really like this movie and you pick up on different things But there is something unique about the first time that you see a movie and if you can Condense and remove as much information from that experience It's it's just a much better experience and I've said to you before I like to do the same thing with books Especially like with on the occasions that I read fiction I like to pick up a book knowing almost nothing about the plot and when you do that You discover like how It's just a different experience that a lot of the setup Feels different than if you know like oh what the overall plot of the of the book or the movie is I I grab you to grab up I grab you to And I would always recommend For someone to avoid spoilers and I you know I avoided Star Wars spoilers And certainly for the the day or two after the film had come out and I hadn't seen it I I was a lot more wary than I normally would be so I'm not saying don't avoid spoilers I guess the thing that I'm a little bit funny about other people who are like a bit snooty about it And I'm a bit preachy about it and a bit pretentious about it But also can you use your pretentious voice to describe how they talk about it? Yes, I actually didn't switch up my computer for five years There you go as soon as I heard JGA Abrams was directing I went and sealed myself in a cocoon I like it this voice seems to be amplifying very quickly and this is good Um And I and two films I mean I remember when I first saw the matrix Um, I didn't even know what it was about I just got a ticket from my dad because it was a theater critic and said You can go and see this film and I had no idea what I was even walking into And like I'm like my head exploded and also I remember I went with a friend and saw pulp fiction And I had no idea what I had no idea who even had made the film I'd never seen reservoir dogs at the time. I didn't know who quentin turned who I was And like an hour into the film my friend just turned around and like grabbed my arm and said This is the best film I've ever seen And like say like say seeing films when you have no idea is like a wonderful is a wonderful thing This is that same friend also an hour into shineless list turned to me and said is this whole film gonna be black and white Oh that's great This is really depressing you know But there is something to be said as well for The year of hype before a film comes out And it can be done in the right way and I think a really good example of that is Jurassic Park The like the very first Jurassic Park I was in a frenzy of excitement about seeing that film Of all the all the hype and excitement and build up and And true they didn't spoil it and they held back a lot of cool stuff and that and when you finally saw all the dinosaurs It was amazing But like I wouldn't for the world want to have avoided all the hype and trailers and stuff that preceded Jurassic Park Because that that's what made that film such an amazing release when you finally saw it And I think if you avoid the hype too much You sometimes miss out on some of the experience of what Hollywood and what movies is that how That whole machine of excitement that comes before a film like that machine can sometimes be destructive and can give too much away But other times it can really enhance the experience Well without a doubt that human happiness is increased by anticipation And something like the Jurassic Park movies There they were selling our dinosaurs are amazing like they're going to blow your mind I need the first Jurassic Park movie I liked yeah yeah there's only one Jurassic Park movie And I mean I actually I saw Jurassic Park just a couple years ago again And I was astounded by how well the graphics held up I'm like I can't believe this works like I can see Sometimes when they're using puppets and when they're using CGI But it's just amazing how well some movies age But but but that movie like when they were advertising it They're going to show you less of the dinosaurs because the dinosaurs are what you're buying the ticket for Yeah and also with that I have the same feeling of I was really excited for the the first Lord of the Rings movies and I remember God back when I was in college they put out some Little tiny online postage stamp size video featureette Of some of the initial stuff for Lord of the Rings like two years before the first movie came out And I remember watching that over and over again where it was The director just saying how like it's amazing. We have the technology now to to make this movie But both of those are our places where I can't even say there's spoilers because I've read the book like the story exists in some other place and so I think like Jurassic Park or Lord of the Rings are bad examples for Things that you can be excited about because they they pre existed in some other place Yeah, but the excitement there is how are they going to execute it? How they're going to make it real right But that's a totally different excitement from what is the thing yeah, right? Where whereas if if if they had released a Star Wars novel of the movie a year ahead of time I feel like it would be a very different experience waiting for the Star Wars movie I don't think those things are necessarily comparable rating Can you remember a film being spoiled for you? I'm trying to think I know I know that I have had stuff spoiled or there are just movies where I'm fully aware of like Oh, I'm going to have a different experience because I already know the thing about it So this actually came up on on boxing day we were discussing but we didn't actually We were thinking about watching Gone Girl as a movie and that's an example of like I already know the whole story of Gone Girl I don't even know how I know the whole story but somehow it is Entered into my mind and so I'm just aware that like oh, okay I will watch this movie in a totally different way than if I Wasn't already aware of the plot ahead of time yeah, so and and but that's a case where I don't really mind Because I'm not super invested in that where I actually when you talk about cult of spoilers the worst I ever was with that was Avoiding spoilers for the wire Because I knew that someday I was going to sit down and watch the wire But it was never this day and so I spent years and years like ripping out my headphones whenever any podcasts would suddenly start talking about the wire It's just very worried about spoilers for this thing that I knew someday I was going to watch So I spent years avoiding spoilers for a thing that already existed But I just didn't feel like watching it yet for some reason Yeah, so that's probably the weirdest behavior I've had but I mean have you haven't you have any massive spoilers? I mean aside of course from Star Wars well Yeah, I've probably had some and I've had others where I've avoided things like like yourself where I did that a little bit with breaking bad The thing I'm funny about with spoilers is quite often sport If I've like pre-recorded a game it happens to me a bit with baseball and sometimes some other sports like football and Formula 1 is the classic because I always watch Formula 1 races a few hours after They actually happen because they use Formula 1 races usually happen on Sundays and Sundays a day when I'm usually out about doing things with my wife So I don't I can't watch the race until the evening usually so I I have to be really careful about social media then because if I know who wins the race it really It makes the race very hard to watch The funny thing with sport spoilers is like I'm a Yankees fan right and so if I go if I want to watch a Yankees game if I Find out the result and the Yankees win. I'll still watch the whole game really happily If I find out they lose I just won't watch But if I know they're gonna win I will get just as much enjoyment from watching the game as as I would From not knowing the result in fact sometimes I might enjoy it more because even when they're losing I won't be miserable. I'll be thinking oh this is just gonna be awesome Cuz they're gonna come back and win it like I can't wait This is brilliant Like and I'm looking at the happy opponents thinking you got no idea what's coming mate sports spoilers are a double-edged sword And and for example if I'm about to watch a Yankees game and it's spoiled and I find out actually the red socks are gonna win this game I feel really relieved because that's three hours of my life That I can do something else with Rather than sitting there being miserable watching them lose This to me is just I mean cuz I'm you know, I'm not a person who who follows sports. I have no problem with people following sports But it just always strikes me as funny if you say something like oh boy, I'm really relieved I don't have to watch that game I feel like yeah, is that for feel like something about the sports mind? I'm like Is it really that interesting? I don't think I'm not sure that it is think of it this way Great imagine if there was someone I know this person could never exist But imagine if there was someone Who you trusted enough their taste in movies or any cultural things like books That that you could just look to them and say I'm thinking of going seeing this film this afternoon I'm thinking of reading this book and they just gave you a little nod or just a little shake of the head To say read the book and they knew maybe you wouldn't like the book But you should read it because there was some value to it or it would make you think things or you would like it They just knew if it was a valuable use of your time Okay, you've convinced me. I've completely changed my mind. You're right I see this in a I see this in a different way because for sport Yeah, and and the reason that works for sport is because the with sport The result and the team I want to win is the be all an endo right? So that little nod or shake of the head really does just come down to the result Most of the time right sports feels like World War II can there be spoilers. I don't think they're handling Well, yeah, it's funny, but but If my team is gonna win I'd rather not know but you know, you can't do it. It doesn't work that way So it's very difficult. I'm sorry about you. You know sports spoiler difficulties my sport viewing's gone down here With the last year or so I need to I really need to pick that up. Yeah. Yeah, it has gone downhill. We were watching Darts that was at boxing day is I just want you to see what I wanted you see what darts look like horrifically poorly designed Sport that you just kept trying to really sell me on and I was completely unsolved For people listening grace problem with darts is he think he thinks it just should be a competition to see who can hit the bowzai Basically, it just it like it just blows my mind the darts is not about hitting the bullsai I can hardly I can hardly you I just We must have spent I don't know like an hour arguing over this and and like oh no They don't try to hit the bullsai and and okay, so okay, so listen You might be thinking if you're unfamiliar with darts. Oh, there must be more complexity to it then like there's a thing It's going on and maybe it's a much more interesting game. No Instead, they're just trying to hit a little a little red rectangle that's just a few inches above the bullsai every time until the very end So they might as well they don't even dare cut me off. They might as well be hitting the bullsai It's just if you just if they're just going to be aiming for that the red square above the bullsai Why don't they just aim for the goddamn bullsai because it's a dart port. It's just infuriating I couldn't believe this I felt like on the day when I finally explained the nuance of darts to you and and why that's not true I felt like he got there in the end. I feel like now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's no regression It's it's not first of all we like we had to be more civil because the wives were around Like just like strangling you like I wanted to You're sitting there all smug about like oh darts is so crazy. I was standing up at the TV pointing to parts of the darts or on the TV so that you could understand I Just I just I could not I could not believe the rule the rules of darts I mean it was it was kind of fun to see it on TV I'm not saying that like darts is dumb like I always and I always like that No matter what the activity is in the world There's a group of people who are super into the thing and to me like that This is just the great thing about the modern world is that no matter what it is No matter how obscure your interests are there's going to be a group of people who are into a thing And so aside from the actual rules of the game which I thought were ridiculous I didn't think it was fun to see that It was up at Alexandria Palace in North London But um alley-pally alley-pally is that what they call it? That's what you can sort the dots people call it alley-pally But I did love that there was like this this arena for the darts players and they had cheerleaders And like big lights and swooping cameras like I just like that whole thing I do love I love that this can exist in the modern world But the fact that they're not aiming at the bullseye they're aiming at something just slightly north of the bullseye every time That's infuriating you need to change that rule darts the please people don't Go to Twitter or red or email to explain the rules of darts to Gray and I I explain the rules of darts to Gray Yeah, I explained why there's a lot more to it than that No, there's not a lot more to it. I swear at the time it felt like he understood yeah, no I understand right now. I understand right now It's the it's the triple 20 where you're counting down from 500 and at the very end you have to get it It's like at zero. I understand like we we went through and you understand the targets move around depending on the state of the game and and your No, it only it only matters at the very end The you do you do four throws where you're always trying to hit the same little rectangle and then only at the end when you're To get into zero to then does it change that's no no I understand perfectly. I understand exactly how this works you clearly didn't this is my failure This is my failure. No, this is a failure. Your ignorance is my failure. Yeah, and I how darts works It's I take full responsibility for grace Grace me standing here and I work on it whatever no, we will not work on it any further. You know I should come play darts. We should play darts That's what we should do all right I feel like it's like a sport you'd play. Yeah, I do that like I can't say you ever strapping on the cricket pads and letting me send down a few No, I'm not saying you cricket, but but I think you'd play darts with me. Yeah, I wonder I don't I don't think the pub that we meet up and normally has the dartboard, but well I'd play darts with you sometime All right. We'll find a we'll find a darts venue. Yeah, it's a date our fourth date Let's talk flags Vote follow up Yeah, we had our big referendum We haven't had a chance to talk about it because Star Wars took precedence for a while You're a million pounds might have taken precedence, but it didn't So flag follow up now. Do you know what I mean the lottery tonight though you probably don't know this But there's a huge jackpot in the in the lottery in the UK tonight. Oh, yeah, and it has to be one So I've no one wins it. They divvy up all the money to the second place getters So that apparently as of an hour ago they were selling 400 tickets a second Wow People really are mathematically illiterate, aren't they But I was one of them because Mr number file mathematically illiterates in fact, I think the draws happen so you could right now be speaking to a millionaire Well, let's continue on with the show shall we all right? That's let's continue with what could be our last show right the the flag vote Um So there were lots of little bitty bits of follow up really the first thing I want to do is I just want to Tip my hat To those people who were so dedicated that they watched our Epic video of us sorting the votes and they were obviously watching frame by frame Because these people have screen captured the moment that we through their postcard into whatever bin We threw it into and they've been posting them on social media and zooming in and enhancing and putting red circles around postcard saying look Look, there's my vote. There's my vote going into the bin And I have been saying those tweets and I just want to say good on you. I'd mind you. I think you've uh You know, I don't want you to feel like you did that for nothing because You probably did do it for nothing They did it for the satisfaction of finding their vote I'm really glad that people were able to find their votes I think it's extra funny though that some people got really lucky because what the way we through the votes They would land in really prominent positions for long sections of the video I was like, oh those people had it on easy mode. They're like, oh great. I know My uh my vote was visible at the front of the bin for the entire video It's like those people were we're very lucky in that case But yeah, I'm glad people were able to go through and and find their votes and see you know see them in action And uh, we now have a time lapse of the whole thing up on youtube Is that right or at least it will be up when the podcast goes up Yeah, I sort of like it's condensed down to I'm a couple of minutes maybe the whole thing with a bit of Halloween tonight inspired music composed by Alan Stewart who made our little hallow internet song a little hallow internet like you know tone at the start of the episodes He's used that as yeah He's used that as the inspiration for this little piece of music Uh that goes with it So you can have a look at that it would be even harder to spot your vote on that because obviously it goes by a million miles a second Well, are we still putting up the real time one? What's the story with that because you're in charge of this? I do intend to do that um Obviously that will be spoiler-tastic for people who avoid grace face because I'm already getting my knuckles wrapped for Grace face gate on the other on the other video. So I put up uh to try to minimize the number of people who Reelling it you I have put up little annotations that people can click when the spoiler is coming up So it says like grace face spoiler coming up click here to avoid and then it jumps forward 10 seconds Because I did feel bad about how many comments you were getting But I was like you put together a video with thousands of cuts like it was it was inevitable that there was I didn't even I didn't even see it. Let's see them. I did like sometimes I did crop out your face of some shots, but anyway Uh Yeah, so keep keep an eye on the hello internet youtube channel for all that kind of stuff and we'll obviously talk about it on social media and stuff, but yeah, the hello internet youtube channels the place to go for people who do want to see some postcards like If in full hd deluxe can I also do a little plug for what has become essentially my passion project? Which is podcast Postcards.com And what's happening there is every day at 3.33 p.m. UK time A new postcard is going up on that blog And I and I scan at high resolution the front and the back so you can pour over it in all this detail And sometimes I try to make the postcard relevant to the day. So if it's like the national day of uh Cameroon. I'll try and make a postcard from Cameroon that day. So sometimes they're themed Sometimes they're just ones that have caught our eye and I'm like I'm really loving doing this and I'm scared I'm spending way too much time on it for something that is not getting like a whole lot of traffic, but I'm spending the return on investment is negative Oh, yeah, it's a huge it's a huge loss maker, but I'm just getting so much pleasure from it and like I'm I'm pre Programming these blogs to like go up on certain dates in the future And I'm already like towards the end of the year like oh really on On an on an anniversaries of famous things at the end of the year I've already got that blog post already done with a relevant postcard Look at you. Yeah, I'm really loving it like it's just uh it's just become a little It's always become like a therapeutic thing I do it just it's kind of mindless and lovely and It's nice to look through all these lovely pictures And it's nice to have a bit of a connection with some of the listeners and It's an easy job to do and it's a bit fun So go and have a look post it's podcast postcards Dotcom. Yeah, there is also a Twitter a Twitter forerot and stuff But if people look at it will make me happy because I'm spending so much time doing it Yeah, people should definitely look and I have to say I have been really enjoying it as well It's just very interesting to see the different postcards and of course my experience is a little bit different because we just Did not have time on the day to really look through everything and I'm enjoying these postcards in their digital form And I love that you're scanning them at high resolution and I go on the site and I check it out and I just it's This is how I can appreciate the uniqueness of each of these things. It's like oh, I have I have time to look at them And check them out and see the little details that people put in there I like that you have your late ballot stamp that you put on top of some of the postcards. It's it's really nice And yeah, you can see what people wrote and you can see what stamps they used and stuff. It's really it's really fun I really like it. Yeah, and I always just love this is almost like In the same way that the internet I always feel like oh people are just so clever on the internet People have been really clever with some of the postcards as well I'm looking at one right now, which is that that famous picture of soldiers in in World War II raising the flag But they've they've photoshopped it so that it's the white cross flag Which was the one that this person was voting for I just love that people do these things Do you know what I'm surprised hasn't happened yet by some some you know superfan or nerd I'm surprised no one is keeping A running vote score just based on the postcards that have gone onto the blog Like like a running tally of who's who would be winning the vote if they were the only ones that were cursed But I'm sure that will now happen. Yeah I'm sure that will happen now, but yeah, there is a reddit dedicated to the postcards sort of probably appear there. I imagine but There's a reddit for everything there is a reddit for everything But anyway go and check out that website You can know what you can just dip in once a week or once a month and go and look at all the past ones Or you can look every day if you're a proper yeah, I'm super enthusiast you can be frantically refreshing at 332 every day There are straggler votes coming in as well. I just a couple of days ago. I went and picked up some more late votes They're not having to give us a separate cardboard box anymore our own postbox is now enough to hold the 5 or 6 late votes that come in hey today. Did you return all of the misdirected mail that we got Yes, the collar those messages to Steve and everybody else. Yes. I've taken those back to the the post place and said Can you sort these out? So they have been returned? Hopefully they will find their way to where they were supposed to be I was kind of hoping you would be like Santa Claus and hand deliver them yourself around the neighborhood and explain Everybody what the situation like while I am prone to wasting vast amounts of my time one point this project That would be a step too far. I think I like that idea though Like oh, it's your friendly neighborhood breedy delivering the misdirected mail I'm not opposed to people still sending us postcards with what they would have voted for They just have to know they're going to get a late ballot stamp on them and They uh they won't be counted of course But they still might appear on the blog one day and they'll go into this huge collection. I have in my office of postcards Yeah, your collection looks lovely And I'm glad that you are the keeper of the postcards. Yeah, you can come and look at them anytime. I will just make an appointment No, I'm just gonna show up You'll like that. I'll just show up with your house, Brady. Don't be a nice surprise. I wouldn't mind. I Think you would. I think you would be really freaked out if I just showed up at your door one day I'd think something had dramatically better happened Mm-hmm But I wouldn't if but they if you then said no everything's fine. I just thought it would be a nice surprise I think brilliant. Let's go for lunch. Let's play darts This hallow internet episode has once again been brought to you by square space Now we talk all the time about how great square space is. 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I can't tell you how easy it is but also how great it is square space Build it beautiful Here's the situation because everyone wants to know what's happening with the flag Mm-hmm I have decided and discussed it with you that we are having some really professional versions of the winning flag nail and gear Made yeah, and I've been talking to a proper flag company about different ways they can make it and they're gonna do like Zone versions with all the ropes and toggles and everything like that like a real flag Well, I'm calling it the pro flag because you know I like anything that's pro So So so what I did the other day was I'm about to I'm about to order order so I'm an author or maybe there'll be some Uh, listeners who would like who would like one of these and I'll order one for them too So there is a I've made a little section on my blog where you can go and if you want one you can you can get one But they have very expensive and also you know because it's part of supporting the podcast and the amount of time I'm gonna have to spend Smailing them and dealing with all people's requests and stuff, you know, they have to be expensive Don't they they can't just you know I can't just feel free So so some people said oh I'd really love one of those, but they're really expensive making the pro of anything It's just more expensive because it's super high quality. That's just that's just the way it is I mean it's not and we're dealing and I have to deal with it and I'd like I do have like work I'm supposed to do So it has to be worth time do you though because you seem to spend your time just you know Scanning postcards and All right, well okay, okay, well maybe that's a bad example, but all right Let's say let's say maybe we can let's say maybe I'm hoping I can use the profits from selling flags to indulge my scanning habit But anyway, that's by the buy we we we know people want want this want a copy of the flag and they don't want I have to pay flag pro prices, which is completely reasonable So hopefully by the time this podcast goes out or Very soon if not check check the links in all the usual places. We are talking to DFTBA who do our fitter tron 5000 t-shirt and the hello internet t-shirt about having nailing gear t-shirts and also a cheaper nailing gear flag made that you can buy through them and because you and I don't think they have to do with it Right We can make them you know super cheap, right? There's not like a one-off order Yeah, and you know and we don't have to and we don't have to sign that and stuff like that You're just getting it from the factory and you can get one and you're supporting the podcast as well So keep an eye out for that that is gonna that's gonna be there and finally the final issue is You could make your own I guess what do you think about that Gray? Well, yeah, we were discussing it before that And the thing about this is we did this big referendum We're choosing a flag for the growing nation of hello internet. Yeah, it's for the teams Yeah, it's for the tims and for the tims to show their allegiance Yeah to march around with It was voted on by the tims for the tims right and and so we were we were saying that We just we just wanted to make it the official policy that the flag design Belongs to the community So if you want to make your own flag if you want to print your own flag Go nuts with it and I I will I'll put it in the show notes. I'll make available Like a the high quality vector So the people can download it and play around with it But I really feel like we happen to be putting together a flag for people to buy if they want out of convenience But the flag belongs to the people because it came from the people so Go nuts with it everybody like this is your flag and we want you to have fun with it But I have to say I'm quite looking forward to my flag per I can't wait to see the flag pro and per's yeah It's gonna be great Flying from our headquarters Exactly exactly I'll buy the way one person already has printed the flag and flown it. Oh yeah. Yeah I can't remember who they were maybe I can find them hang on At Reich brand free It's put first flag ever to see the wind question mark And they are flying the flag from a flag pole In a sort of really stowey location It's quite impressive actually great. Isn't it art together the flying the flag? It kind of looks like it so because of your Antarctic video everyone's also now saying Is this Antarctica? And are you claiming Antarctica and stuff for that? I mean, I think we have claimed Antarctica I think that video is officially claiming it's Arctic Nation of hell of internet You can't look at Twitter can you because of your band so no no I'm back now. It's been two months. I'm back I haven't I just haven't really gone on very much, but I can look now I know I've just sent it to your own i-message anyway the picture so you can see it the nailing gear proudly flying Very cool. It looks it looks magnificent. It does it looks absolutely magnificent And it's a beacon of the postcard democracy Beacon of postcard democracy So one more thing I just want to mention about the referendum which uh I quite enjoyed which is that nailing gear one we had our our preference distribution It was a comfortable victory if not a landslide Yeah without a doubt it was a comfortable victory Yeah, just like in any nation There's always opposition and I cannot help but notice that the opposition seems to have coalesced Around flaggy flag in a way that I think is really interesting like looking at all of the discussions I don't see anybody who is coalescing around the other versions It's just but there is like strong minority support for flaggy flag interesting flaggy flag has developed its own subreddit There's like a twitter account that's promoting it. I've seen in a bunch of the conversations like flaggy flag has definitely attracted its its little subgroup And so my feeling on this is like flaggy flag Has become the rebel flag of the hello internet nation like this seems to be What it really is like the flag of the opposition is flaggy flag or the could have been like the could you know The what could have been the alternate history. Yeah. Yeah. I just think it's it's it is really interesting Post election to see that there is no discussion of the other versions Like they don't see anybody really like oh club and claw forever right no it's always flaggy flag forever So I feel like flaggy flag is the unofficial official rebel flag of the podcast Just today the day we're recording one of the postcards I put on to the the blog the new website Was the later vote that came after deadline from dork of very stablium fame oh yes He voted for flaggy flag and even wrote on his postcard You know the one true flag flag of truth. I think he wrote so So we'll have to have to pick his brain next time we speak to him and find out why he thinks flaggy flag is Has done this because he was an advocate of that one as well. Yeah, there we go Yeah, I just I think it's I think it's interesting to see the discussion before and the discussion after the election and The flaggy flag people they're serious. They're uh, they're no joke Is a legitimate for me to ask you as the queen of diamonds of hello internet How you feel about flaggy flag or is that something you can't comment on for diplomatic reasons or what what are your feelings towards flaggy flag as a flag I mean here's the thing I have done what I've said I've done which is that I am the embodiment of the will of the people I have no opinion on any of these flags except of course for nail and gear which is the one true flag of the hello internet nation Wow, that's what we represent you have you have been a true monarch great you are really telling the line now I got to respect that I got to respect that what about you Brady do you have any thoughts? I grew a really strong attachment to flaggy flag And I would not have been sad if it won Mm-hmm, but it did not win It did not win and and nailing gear is our flag And it is a magnificent flag It is it is magnificent It is it is a worthy winner because because it is what the team's wanted yeah And it comes in a pro version and you can get nailing gear pro You like that don't you I knew you'd like that I think that's great I love that I just really wanted to quickly mention our hot stopper Fundraiser I was just wondering about that the other day yeah There is a there is obviously we are raising money for the children's burns trust here in the UK in the hope that our campaigning to raise money for them will also stick in the mind of Starbucks UK and get them to really get moving with doing a better job of stop stocking hot stoppers in all their branches right I can't believe I'm working so hard on this when it's your To your thing But anyway, we said this is your your your your a you are a medium manipulator. It's what you are Brady We have now raised over a thousand pounds day for the children's burns trust Uh, we'll put a link in the show next if you want to go and see the fundraising page and come on Actually, K that's more than a thousand pounds that people have paid Yeah in the interests of hot stoppers and that I think you should be paying attention to that and those hot stoppers They can't cost more than a thousandth of a penny to manufacture So let's think of there's like a hundred thousand hot stoppers right there like that's what that represents I would get towed off for that level of simplification, but anyway, I'll let you do it It's 100% legitimate by doing okay, but yeah, we need those hot stoppers Just just uh two days ago my wife sent me a photograph of a hot stopper disaster that could have been prevented with some hot chocolate that she got from Starbucks and it spilled everywhere Out of the litmus like a simple hot stopper. It would have fixed this. Yeah, you know what I've been doing Brady One of the listeners suggested this and when they first suggested I thought Oh, well, that's that's a sad thing that I'll just never do but now I do it of course Which is had in Starbucks to try to at least mitigate Hot stopper like problems you take one of the straws and fold it in half and to kind of shove it in the little opening That's such an ungray solution I Hate it on so many levels. It's it's in elegant. It's ugly It doesn't even really work, but here I find myself doing this You know, and it's just It's just barbaric it is the only way to describe this like we have a perfect solution What I've got I've got an idea Gray what why don't we take like that picture that your wife took and other pictures of people with hot chocolate spilled down Their white shirts or scald marks on their hands and force Starbucks to print them on their cups like the warnings They have on cigarette packets Like to say be careful on this could happen to you right and and four Starbucks do it unless they're willing to stop Hot stoppers in all their shops Give them the choice if you've had a serious spill as a result of not having a hot stopper Send us your pictures and we'll pull together a photo archive of the worst Disaster that could have been prevented. Yeah had only Starbucks used hardstoppers I mean who know I mean maybe the whole ex on Valdese things could have been avoided if there was a big enough hot stopper Yeah, I'm sure that's what they were just missing at the top of the ship And they're just sailing around in the open seas with a little hole at the top. Oh, I'm sure this will never matter If everything goes fine if we just drive more carefully we never have to worry How can we stop this oil getting out into the sea? I know captain will use this giant hot stopper good work Jim There's been a bit of news grey Yeah big news big news for someone who makes videos about the periodic table such as you good friend Brady. Oh, yeah Four new elements have been Confirmed as official The final four elements on the conventional periodic table actually So now the people who have been responsible for synthesizing these elements Have been told okay You can name them so we're gonna have four new elements named probably within the next few months I suspect Okay, two questions two questions okay, so these are the elements that previously had those like Un-un-unium kind of names that's correct in fact I'll tell you exactly what elements there if you let me call this up So the elements are 113 115 117 and 118 Just for people listening who aren't too into chemistry. I'll just really quickly explain What happens is it's not like someone has been digging in the ground and has found new elements with these really big elements They like they can't hold together They're too big and they just fall apart and less than a second So what they do is they create these huge particle accelerator machines and smash atoms into each other Billions and billions and billions of times and then just occasionally A couple will stick to each other They'll hit each other in just the perfect way and they'll stick for a second and scientists can do certain observations to say Yep 113 was there existing for a second or so and once all the Eyes are dotted and the teas are crossed This organization called iUPAC which is in charge of the periodic table and stuff says okay Done deal you did the job now you can give it a name So these four elements which are the only four that don't have names on the existing periodic table until they make it bigger and put another row on it Yeah, I was gonna say like I'm looking at a picture of periodic table right now and Yeah, there were always these like gaps on the bottom of elements that we know should be there but aren't yeah in theory You can keep smashing protons together and so you could imagine a periodic table with an additional row We just never made it that way because it wasn't sensible. Yeah, because you just you'd have just had a whole row of fantasy elements Right, right. Okay, but now they made they may do that and of course there is also the The famed and possible island of stability Where they think maybe at certain numbers Atoms can actually hold together for some time So there may be some numbers that par maybe in the 130s where they don't just fall apart in a nanosecond But anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about The thing the thing that I think is interesting was possible names for these four elements And I mean it is it is fantasy chemistry a bit because these are obviously going to be named for I'll probably along more political and national No, sure not no, no, no, I mean 113 is definitely gonna have a Japanese name because There's no Japanese name on the periodic table and this was discovered by a Japanese collaboration So they're obviously going to take their chance to name an element after Japan or something like that Japanium. Yeah, well, yeah could could be anything, you know Naponium or Nahanian or something Tokyo-I'm I don't know But I imagine that's going to get a Japanese name but 115 117 and 118 are all done by this sort of Russian-American collaboration so They have been showing form recently of going down very nationalistic grounds And I have it on good authority This is this is wink wink, you know possible god That that muskovium is gonna be one of them Oh, interesting But that's sort of just a rumor doing the rounds By doing the rounds in the chemistry community Muskovium sounds good. It's a good name. It does sound good to be fair But the Germans who synthesized a lot of elements they recently named an element Copponetium after Copernicus and they could have named it Plankium or named it after a German But they didn't they named it after Copernicus So there is there is precedent for People saying you know what let's be big about this and Name it after someone that deserves it rather than just being nationalistic If it was up to you if if the Queen of Diamonds was given the authority to name an element How has it become the Queen of Diamonds is a title as opposed to the playing card that I am Like when did this switch happen? I don't know I don't even know when did anything happen? Would there any elements are any people or places or things you'd like to see honored because I think being honored with the name of an element Well, I mean that's bigger than a Nobel Prize. I think that's like that's massive Would you rather have an element named after you or would you rather have the million francs of the Nobel Prize and the Nobel Prize Element named after me really yeah, really interesting. What about you? Uh Yeah, I think I just I take the money and The the career opportunities that a Nobel Prize would afford what you don't think being the only living person with an element named after you because Elements can only be named after dead people according to the rules You don't think being a living person with an element named after you wouldn't provide marketing opportunities Not very many not very many know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Maybe you're up I think it's it's that's a kind of thing that's like oh this is an interesting piece of trivia at a party But if I have a career where I've I've won a Nobel Prize and I also have the million francs This is this is something is something that means something to me But the periodic table is immortality. Mm-hmm. There is someone who was asked that question who had both honors And that was Glenn Seaborg Seaborgium was named after him. It was named after him while he was alive Which was an exception and he won a Nobel Prize And he said having the element named after him meant more to him and was the greater honor Well, yeah, but he's also he was also a chemist Like it's it's a very like I'm not a chemist and It's sorry chemistry, but you were always one of my least favorite sciences. I was never very good at chemistry I found it to be boring stamp collecting as all physicists do And so that's why like uh pure like table. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'll take the money is what I will do I mean before before I get a million tweets from everybody. I have in my old age Nellowed in my thoughts on chemistry and I'm much more fine with it now than I used to be So please please don't send me tweets being like oh you need to understand how important chemistry is it's like yeah I get it. I get it You know, I used to be a real jerk about it. Well that well that said Any thoughts about names of elements anything? Well, so here's the problem because chemistry is not my strong suit. I would have a hard time coming up with a chemistry person Who is not already honored on the periodic table? Well Copernicus wasn't a chemist This decision was just taken that he was a great man of science and deserved to be honored on this icon of science Yeah, I can see that Copernicus and that's that's not a great name. It's not a great name. I think people tend to say Copernetian go a copper Nitsium. Mm-hmm. I think this is like the Amarishian which I was thought was American It's a terrible name for American that's awful And I'm seeing yeah, it's like no, it's Amarishian you idiot. Yeah When I'm thinking of of scientists of course my favorite scientist is fine men Well, this is one that comes up a lot fine medium is discussed a lot as a possible name I was not a hundred percent sure actually if you had one of the crazy elements at the end But I think I'm confusing it with what is it? It's a hundred is fermium fermium is the yeah, that's in rico Fermi Because we have who are actual scientists? We've got curium. All right. We've got an stinium Yeah, Fermi. Yeah, Mendelevium What else is there? I'm just trying to go see bogey. Oh, of course see bogey. I don't I don't think I actually realized until your story was a person No, Bellium no Bellium Laurenti am oh you're good at this Laurenti am Carbon after mr. Carbon Yeah, gold after i rego from entourage right So I'm out on tap silver after David silver from bivoli who's not a two-year-old We're going deep now So yeah, I mean, I don't know I think but but the problem is that I I just like fine men and no small part because of his books in his stories and His just incredible Captivating way of talking like I've seen all of the videos of him talking and listen to his physics lectures and everything and a big Feynman fan I don't know if I was a serious Scientist and sitting down and thinking like wow I have the responsibility of coming up with an element name. What am I going to pick? I don't know if I would pick Feynman Compranitium is more possible because it's just like oh a great man of science from a long time ago is seems very different to me than a modern Physicist yeah, I can't explain that very well, but it just seems right in my mind that that's yeah I mean Isaac Newton Isaac Newton is not on the periodic table. Yeah, yeah, and it feels like he shouldn't be No, no you're right. Can I just mention can I just mention one other scientist that we forgot to mention having an element named after them Yeah, and that is Lisa Maithner and Maithnerium and the only reason I want to mention that is because she was Absolutely snubbed for the Nobel Prize when she shouldn't have been and the one saving grace was they named an element after her to make it up for her And if we then forgot to mention she had an element named after her it would have been like Deliciously ironic that she's got forgotten again So I want to mention Lisa Maithner is that that's a 109 Maithnerium Maithnerium. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, you're right. It is Boreum rather 40 Of course, yeah, there's a whole bunch that we're missing. Yeah, we're bad at this. Yeah, yeah, we're joking about silver Yeah, so stop stop screaming at the podcast people. Yeah, I think all the chemists have checked out by now Yeah, but what about you Brady? What what do you think? What do you think for the names? Do you know what I asked you earlier to come up with some suggestions and yeah, I haven't really got out of your mouth of my own I kind of like it when they name them I quite like them being named after places sometimes, but there's not many American places left though There's San Francisco, yeah, well, they've got Bekeleum named after Berkeley That's an over saying San Francisco, yeah, and they've got californium The one place that has been involved with this that hasn't been acknowledged is The Facility at Oak Ridge in Tennessee I mean could we get Tennessee? Neum, I don't know. Teenium. I don't know how to go. I mean, I like the I like the sound of Plankium And I think Max Plank was a pretty spot on scientists and he's cl- he's close-ish to chemistry sort of But then you know our Japanese Russians or Americans gonna on a max plank. I doubt it You know what we should go in a radically different way here Hmm Why don't we just Somehow we're in charge now is in my mind This flip just happened I came with an idea and suddenly decided I'm in charge Hey, we've got a postbox. Let's have it decided my postcards. Yeah Why don't we just come up with new names like why does it doesn't have to be named after something like some like There's so many of the elements that the name is just what it is like yeah, just call it like Zod Well, yeah, well, that's general Zod from Superman which might not be might not be the best choice Ah, yeah, hey probably hey probably hasn't done enough to have an element named after him at the stage No, no he hasn't yeah although his Viral video of being a angry college sorority girl was very good, but probably not not periodic table where they are exactly Not yet. Yeah, but very good Bebecky um would be his element there um Like the early names of the elements oxygen helium carbon nitrogen aluminum silver gold These are these are words that mean something because they're just the sequence of sounds That are an element name. Why don't we just come up with another sequence of sounds? They're plenty of unused sequence of sounds I think this is a radical direction that we need to go. I think that's what I'm coming down on I don't know why they've stand and I'll ask it the way they have there must be a reason With these ems maybe it's just to I just to make them obviously elements, but But I'm thinking we need we need something else that's like a gold right just a word. There's unused sounds Inventing words as as of now famous inventor of words, right? I can tell you you're a profession here. Yeah, inventing words It's not easy. That was it Yeah, but see you are playing the game on hard mode where you're trying to come up with word that you want to have spread Throughout the general population whereas most people are never going to be casually referring to element 1 1 3 in their conversations So you don't have to play that game you just have to say listen We're the people deciding the names for the periodic tables and it is such that 1 13 is now this sequence of sounds you can just declare it so it's a much easier way to do it this way Yeah, it doesn't have to be catchy. So that's what I think I think we need just arbitrary sequences of sounds for these new elements That's why this is well I enjoy discussing it, but obviously that's ridiculous. It's not gonna happen But what do you mean? Well, it's not a ridiculous idea though. It's not no it Not a ridiculous idea. It's not it's not ridiculous. It would be unfair to call it ridiculous. Yeah exactly It's a good idea. It's not very workable. Do the scientists have the final say about what the name is going to be If so, I hope they listen to this podcast I want the Japanese people should just go freestyle and say it has to be a Japanese character Yeah, that would be great I would actually really like it if they do that Japanese team you know what you have to do Just hang it out there at the bottom of the periodic table This really overly complicated Japanese character which means man with two shoes synthesizers elements on a Tuesday This episode of Hello Internet is brought to you by audible.com audible has more than 180,000 audio books and spoken word products for you to enjoy Get a free 30-day trial today by going to audible.com slash hello internet audible is a great way to read more books whether you're commuting or doing dishes or running errands There are many times in your life where you can Enjoy a book without having to sit down and actually read it I'm a big fan of listening to non-fiction audio books in this way Which brings me to the book that I'm going to suggest for this audible ad now in the next episode of Hello Internet Brady and I are going to discuss a little bit guns germs and steel So this isn't this isn't a homework assignment It's not required that you listen to guns germs and steel before that episode But if you want to be Absolutely on top of every detail of the conversation You might want to download guns germs and steel from audible now two things about this suggestion first This is one of the rare times when I'm actually happy to recommend the abridged version of the audiobook now Of course audible because they have everything they have the full version which is something like 16 hours long But they also have the abridged version and in my perspective Jared Diamond is a little repetitive sometimes and has Lots and lots of additional details. So I think the abridged version is the one to go for and secondly if you do start listening as with other books That I've recommended in the past I have a bit of a suggestion of where to start You want to begin with the prologue which sets up this whole notion of Yali's question Which is kind of the fundamental question of the book But when you're listening to the prologue It's going to come some point where you zone out for a moment and that's Jared Diamond becoming very Jared Diamondy at that moment My suggestion is you just Open up your audible app and jump forward to two hours eight minutes and 30 seconds That will bring you to chapter six which is called how to make an almond The previous two hours in case you're wondering is basically the setup of at 10,000 years ago Humans lived everywhere and had roughly the same level of technology everywhere That's all you've missed so that's my suggestion for this week to be a good hello internet listener is to grab yourself a copy of guns Germs and steel once again audible is offering our listeners a free 30-day trial membership So just go to audible.com slash hello internet and there you can browse their huge collection of audio programs to try audible.com slash hello internet and thanks to audible for sponsoring the show All right, so By weekly weigh in your favorite Brady. Well, that's interesting. I haven't I haven't got a wait for you How am I haven't done a wait for me? Why don't you have a wait? I haven't I haven't weighed myself today But you have your weed yourself recently Uh, I weighed myself about a week ago and I was pretty much the same as I was the previous time I weighed myself Which kind of surprised me because of how much I over Christmas Did you make it through the holidays without gaining weight? I think I must have put a bit on but I think I'd already put a bit on before that and I just haven't I haven't done it grey But I have but I do want to talk about the fidgetron lifestyle Oh, yeah, yeah Because I have I have been getting really energized about it even though even though I sound like I don't care Because you really you really cavalier about it. Well, first of all, let's do your But are your way in are you you know you have all the graphs heading in the right direction? Is it all good in the world of grey? Well, no because when the Christmas season came around I briefly toyed with the idea of trying to Stay on target stay on target for the holiday season because I was approaching 200 pounds the roast potato is getting too close And if you look at my if you look at my weight chart December 21st I was at 203 pounds which of course I'm trying really hard to get under 200 and I remember having this little mental conversation about like man I could just buckle down and I could make it to under 200 by January 1st and I was like Nope And so I immediately gained eight pounds over the holidays and Then I am losing it very quickly, but I'm back down to 206 But the bottom line is I'm still fatter than I was before the holidays So that's my that's the short version of my story All right, but things best sounds like you know, that's an acceptable bump and you you're back on the horse remarkably Yeah, remarkably the weight is coming off very fast again And as we have discussed before on the podcast one of the main skills of the fidgetron lifestyle is Getting back on the wagon like that is the skill that you are cultivating I tell you what I have found just recently. Yeah, right? I haven't gotten my act together with food the way I want and I know food is the most important thing to To you know really lose some weight and I do want to lose some weight But I also want to be healthier And the thing that I found really motivating and I'm not saying pitt this you know I'm not saying by a t-shirt or anything, but I got my fidgetron five thousand t-shirts the other day Mm-hmm and since getting them I have found that really like inspirational Oh, yeah, I've been and I've been wet and I've been putting them on and going to the gym and Running but because of this arbitrary five thousand number which you just pulled out of nowhere Mm-hmm when we were when we were making it up on the spa I've just run with it and I'm running five thousand meters Every time I go to the gym like I get on the treadmill and I run five thousand meters And I'm saying if I can do it how quickly I can do it. I'm trying to bring my times down And the other thing that really inspired me and also completely depressed me was um Henry of Minute Physics fame. Mm-hmm. He got a fidgetron five thousand t-shirt and Henry for those who don't know is a very fit young man and quite the athlete And he made a video of himself wearing the fidgetron five thousand t-shirt and he ran five thousand meters out in the snow and he actually ran over five thousand meters because that's just what he did And he ran it in this ridiculous time of less than 18 and a half minutes. Mm-hmm. I mean he should be in the Olympics Yeah, in fact I think I checked and there was a time when that would almost have been a world record Yeah, I'm not surprised But and I'm never going to get anywhere near his time But I have found a really motivating and I'm really enjoying going to the gym and and having this set distance I have to run and at the end of each run I take a photo of the time and then I come home and put it in a spreadsheet and uh, I've got no I've gotten really into it and I know it's early days But the last few days in particular I've even been I've commented to my wife that I'm working really well and I'm having less fellow periods at work And I'm I'm getting more done each day and I said I can't explain it. What's going on? She said oh, it's probably because you're running an exercising And I was like It probably is I never I didn't even think of that Maybe this is maybe like this is you know, so maybe I'm not losing loads of weight, but maybe I just I'm moving some blood around and Oh, no, I sound like an idiot like I've just discovered that exercise is good for me But this is the subjective experience of it right is is that it it like it sneaks it sneaks in In an unexpected way that you can sort of you cannot really Notice until It's been happening for a while So yeah, this is totally understandable five thousand meters is a really I think is a really almost perfect distance like like I don't know if you're like some kind of genius or it was blind luck, but it's almost like You almost couldn't have picked a more perfect distance because You know it takes you know half an hour to run five thousand meters You know if you're just an average runner, I guess normal person, you know more than half an hour I guess but it's taking me a little over half an hour, but I'm getting it down So it's like it's a good amount of time. It's not like you know some ridiculous marathon. It doesn't kill your body to do it semi-reguley It's not so short that it's not worth the effort. It's a very it's a really good distance. So Yeah Yeah, so It's it's funny that you say this Brady because There there's a thing that I had been keeping secret from you which is Just so strange to me that I can hardly even Understand how or why I'm doing it, but I actually started Trying to run right and The I know that the People you need to understand I think I have literally not run Except for occasional sprints in Dulles Airport for close connections Opposite ends of those God for sake and terminals But aside from that, I think I have literally not run for the entirety of my adult life and Just about a month ago it just it came into my head of like why don't you try to run 5,000 meters like this this idea came Unbidden from nowhere popped into my head and my thought was but but I hate running And then I thought about it more and the answer was Do I though like do I know that I hate running like I don't think I actually know I think that I think I hate to run And so I Happened to be traveling and I happened to be in Germany out of the blue out of nowhere I got a little training app for running and I Went outside to run in a park in Germany It was just completely out of character and completely surprising to me and since then I have been very very very slowly Trying to build up the amount that I run and When I do it I'm out there running and I'm still thinking I think I don't like this but I don't know but I'm trying to get to the point where I can actually run 5,000 meters And then I will feel like well Then I can make an informed decision about whether or not I actually Like running or I don't but I To think that somehow like the fit of tron 5000 lifestyle in some bizarre way like that number 5000 Got into my brain and I'm like oh, I know there are races that are 5k and some part of my brain just decided Let's go for this like we don't run and let's try to get to the point where I can run 5,000 meters and I am Baffled by this behavior in myself, but here here I am here I am What sort of distances are you on at the moment and what kind of space do you run at when I run Brady My spirit animal is a turtle right That I have this little training program on my phone which tries to be super gentle where it's like Walk for 7 minutes and then after 7 minutes it beeps and it goes okay Just jog very slowly for a minute and then after the minute it says okay go back to walking now walk for another 5 minutes right like it's trying to build you up and When it got to the point where I had to run for 5 minutes in a row I thought like I was going to die like I just my body is so not built for running at the moment I'd have to look at the exact times, but it is taking me a hell of a long time to go 5,000 meters And I am walking the vast vast majority of it But I feel like I'm just gonna follow this little program and build this up Slowly and I think it's probably gonna take like two months or something to get to the maybe the point where I'm actually Running 5,000 meters, but I'm fine going nice and slow and yeah, so it's just it's a thing that is unexpected to me You're doing it outside. You're not doing it like on a treadmill. You're doing like out the wild That's the other thing. I'm outside and I bought running pants Brady like the kind of pants that you see runners wear Wow, like like tight like her yeah like tight like her running pants. I don't even know why I did this You know, I was joking. You're actually wearing tight like her running pants. Yeah, I really am. I have no idea why it's like I am totally confused by this Yes, oh my Everybody's confused you don't have to wear tight like her you don't do that like shorts I just went into I went into a store and I did the whole thing where the where I'm like I told the sales guy was like I've never run before ever and I just want to get some running shoes and some gear And I was like just tell me what I need to get and then I walked out the store with a bunch of stuff sexy flanders. Yeah I have sexy sexy flanders Do you know what people say this it's a bit of a cliche and I'm gonna say it now because it's actually true And I found true when I went I got into running a little while back when I did a half marathon And it's this is true on for me on the like on the individual run basis, but also on the The big picture over the months you do it At the start you don't enjoy it Then you start to really love it and that's true on an individual run the first five minutes you think oh What am I doing? This is gonna take forever and then after about five to ten minutes of running This the rest of it is actually quite an enjoyable thing But also on the big scale the first month or so of running you're thinking oh this is such a grind And then it becomes something you start looking forward to if you can get through that first period So I'll be curious to see whether or not you have the same experience. Yeah I am determined to stick with this like I Have an exercise over the past week because of the holiday and because of some various things But I'm getting right back on tomorrow actually is this scheduled next run I am determined to be able to again by run. I mean jog like a turtle, but I am I am determined to be able to jog for 5,000 meters and and then at that point I will decide if this is a thing that I want to keep doing Or or not keep doing but yeah, it's it's a it's an interesting experience and I just I don't quite know how to Describe it yet and actually just by total accidentally the very first time that I went running I didn't have any headphones with me So I was just outside without any music or anything And I was talking to Henry actually because I was asking him for some beginner tips because I figured if anybody knew about running It was Henry And his suggestion was to keep doing it without listening to any music Which would be my natural go to like oh yeah, I got to have some workout songs and I don't know if anybody else wants to try doing Running I think Henry's right. I think doing it without music Somehow feels like the correct thing to do I can't quite explain it. It's like it is sort of boring, but it just feels Right, I think that's true for outdoor running. I'm not sure it's true for gyms I'm going to agree with you there. I think if I was on a treadmill at the gym I would have to listen to something But for running outdoors it feels right to not have to not have the headphones on You've stuck with the headphone free Have you haven't gone to headphone since I have not gone to headphone since. Ah that's interesting. That's good That's very interesting to hear yeah, it was it just a coincidence But Henry suggested that I keep trying it that way when I had accidentally done it the first time And I thought well this man knows running. I'm going to I'm going to follow his advice and I think he's right I think he's right Do you wear your fitter trunk 5,000 t-shirt when you run? I have gear that fits me perfectly Has to be all you 6,6,6,000 flanders like it has a also Because I'm out like I'm out in the park running around And I'm in my sexy flanders outfit This is like the last time in the world I would ever want to be recognized by anyone I have actually done all my 5,000 meters in I'm yet to do one without my fitter trunk 5,000 t-shirt. It has become like it's become like I have to do it in it now Have you been recognized at the gym? No, I haven't but I was actually out the other day Doing I was doing two things. I shouldn't have been doing I was stuffing my face with a five guys hot dog And then I went shopping for underwear And then just after I finished I thought well that would have been like a bad time to get recognized And then I went on Twitter and someone wrote I can't believe I just saw Brady Heron and I said I was I was too you know I said I was I didn't have the courage to go up and say hello But it was nice to see him and I was like oh no, what was I doing? And so I replied and said oh he should have come up and said hello It would have been nice to meet you and he said oh I didn't want to interrupt you I looked like you were really enjoying that hot dog And I thought it could have been worse He could have been looking as I was perusing all the different underpants deciding which color I liked best I don't know man that description of it looked like you were really enjoying that hot dog that sounds pretty bad Like you were just eating and it's like there's a man who's enjoying a hot dog. I can't interrupt him now That's perfect. That's absolutely perfect. Yeah Yeah For a drowned lifestyle hot dogs acceptable Yeah, I feel a lot of this guilty about hot dogs on days when I've done the 5,000 meters

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