H.I. No. 8: First World YouTuber Problems: Difference between revisions

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Grey: [laughing] If- well, it's not- it's not- it's not chink in my armor, but- but there are a few- there are a few interesting, uh, interesting kind of things to- to bring up about that. I'm not summarizing Derek's argument, what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say a similar thing that came up on the Reddit and in some of the feedback that I got was comments about the benefits of learning languages cognitive benefits that are not necessarily the language themself but things that you get from learning a second language. And I always want to be clear I don't doubt that there are benefits to learning another language

Brady: yeah

Grey: but my my point was that I don't think the school system as it currently exists actually produces people who are able to speak another language so you can talk to me as much as you want about the benefits of learning other languages and I am all on board with that but the the current school system just it doesn't do that so it's sort of it's sort of irrelevant how awesome it is to speak a second language when we're not coming out with kids who actually do speak other languages so I would say that that was part of the part of the feedback that I got.

Brady: yeah but but like you teach people sport and physical education and they don't come out as athletes at the end but the process of playing the game taught them thick not only to have a health benefit a taught them about teamwork at taught them things it improved their coordination it did lots of other things even though they come out as a major league baseball or at the end

Grey: yes

Brady: I know you realize this but you seem to say I realize this and then completely ignore it I guess I guess I just my my thought on this is that the the things that I have seen about the benefits of learning of the language are presupposing basic competence in that language, right? when a person has basic competence in the language here are the benefits that they also have and so my my position is just that I don't think most language courses have their students reach basic conversational competence to- to get those benefits it's like- it's like a threshold effect anyway I just I did want to mention that but I also just again want to be clear because Derrick will be really angry otherwise and that was that was not the sole of his arguments and he also had a very different language experience than I did it sounded like he actually had quite a successful schooling experience in general which included which by the way language teachers I think is a good idea starting teaching French I forget when he said but in in primary school he was very young when they started doing French which I think if you're going if you're going to teach language you might as well start when kids are very young right if we're going to do this let's do it right and and start from the very beginning but yeah so he had he had a very different experience with me and I am slightly exhausted but unmov'd from

Brady: you realize like you realize I've got Derrick Nick's he's coming to me for three days now we're like hanging out for ages am I am I just gonna be bombarded with language stuff or

Grey: you may be you may be I do have I do have a personal a piece of advice for you and anyone else who sees Derrick in the next couple of days I have a major regret which is that when I met Derrick we met in the Natural History Museum here in London I I gave Derrick a hug to say hello right like

Brady: yeah

Grey: you know haven't seen you in a while hug and I really shouldn't have because Derrick was was sick but I thought let me let me express my great friendship to Derrick nice big hello hug and now I'm feeling terrible I am feeling very sick Derrick gave me a disease from physical proximity I'm absolutely sure

Brady: oh no

Grey: he is now on his way to you acting as a typhoid mary of sorts I assume so you and the missus may be shortly experiencing symptoms of not feeling very well so I do also apologize to listeners that my voice doesn't sound absolutely perfect or if you hear me if you hear the sound of like crinkly unwrapping like I'm doing now I have halls and a whole bunch of other medicines that I'm shoving in to my face right now to try to sound a bit more normal so I'm sorry these sounds are terrible but you're gonna have to listen to them for the moment

Brady: we're going we're sharing a hot tub with Derek so worried for a world we're going to let the like force pie the hot sparrin in Bath

Grey: that's no good you are definitely disease vector Derek that's what's gonna happen to you sorry

Brady: can I share an email with you I got

Grey: oh yeah

Brady: this is about language it's actually funny there's a bit of a trend I've noticed since we've started the podcast particularly the one we did about email

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I'm worried Mel's

Brady: yes but it's really funny because I'm getting like short emails like you recommended but because because I think we've made our positions clear that you are pretty ruthless with email in terms of not reading it and deleting it and I was a bit more of a softy and I say that I sometimes read emails in case there's and gem in there I'm getting all these emails that are kind of almost directed at you

Brady 14:15

yes but it's really funny because I'm getting like short emails like you recommended but because because I think we've made our positions clear that you are pretty ruthless with email in terms of not reading it and deleting it. And I was a bit more of a softy and I say that I sometimes read emails in cases and gentlemen there I'm getting all these emails that are kind of almost directed at you are the director of both of us and they're saying I know grey won't read my emails. I know there's a chance you will Brady So can you tell gray this or can you make my argument for me so So anyway,

Grey 14:49

this is perfect. I like I like this system quite a lot. This way you can filter out the interesting things. So I think this should be a policy right for for any and all the Back in the email form, email, Brady, he will read your message. I think this is great. I really like this. You are basically now a human, Basie and email filter for me for the feedback. So go ahead Tell me what is the interesting thing that made it through?

Unknown Speaker 15:18

I haven't thought this story

Brady 15:22

if anyone decides that they're going to do that, I don't know. I mean, maybe I know, don't email me, you know,

Grey 15:28

you're still gonna read them.