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Brady: Yeah.
Grey: And
Brady: I’m not sure that- that- some- I mean it’s been a while since I watched it but I- I’m not entirely sure I agree, I mean there are a few people who are I guess are having fun poked at them when they- when they go really over the top and you know dress up as Chewbacca to go to the movies and that-
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Grey: Mm-hmm.
Brady: But I don’t- I always think that those people that are really passionate about the film and talk about midi-chlorians and all that, I
Grey: [chuckles]
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Brady: -But it’s an interesting point, it’s an interesting point.
Grey: Yeah I- I Definitely, I enjoyed it and I’m- I’m glad for the recommendations but I- I would say that it was,
Brady: Uhh, you see I haven’t watched that one yet, Maybe that’s my homework hey?
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Brady: What are we talking about? What- what- what’s on your mind?
Grey: [Sigh] So, to- uh, today, the thing- the thing that I
Brady: Work-Life balance.
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Brady: Your gonna have to elaborate a bit here.
Grey: Okay, so I- I think very often when people are talking about work-life balance, there
Brady: Hmm.
Grey: Um, so that- that is the kind of basis of- of the augment I
Brady: So, are- I’m staying to be- I’m staying to be clear here, are you- are you talking about the amount of time you dedicate to work verses your life, or how successful you can be at one. You know, you can either be a rubbish friend and family member and a brilliant YouTuber or--
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Brady: Of course.
Grey: Or, if we're watching something even moderately interesting, like, "ooh, maybe this could be a video", and then you're not fully there, right? It's hard to be present absolutely one hundred percent of the time. So- so my argument is that even if you- even if you could make a switch between fifty percent work in the day fifty percent family at night, you are choosing a fifty-fifty distribution, and now you have allocated zero percent to friends and zero percent to health.
Brady: Yeah.
Grey: Right?
Brady: Okay.
Grey: So, like, you still have to- you still- you have to do this negotiation between these four areas, and I think it is, it is uncomfortable to try to think about your time and attention in these ways, because nobody wants to give up on any of those categories. But I think- I think it is best to make really clear decisions about "What are you going to try to do?", "How much are your friendships worth to you?", "How much is your family worth to you?", "How much is worth worth- work worth to you?",--
Brady: Yeah.
Grey: --and make decisions about that. Um, and I guess one of the reasons why it's- it has just been on my mind in particular, um, this month, is because I've been really aware that for... basically the past two years, my health light bulb has been at literally zero. Nothing at all done in the realm of health.
Brady: Hmm.
Grey: And that was a very conscious decision, uh, when I was starting my YouTube career, like I'm- I was actually thinking about it in terms of these four categories and I had discussions with my wife about it, and it was a like, "we're just going to kind of ignore the health one, uh, while we're in this, this sort of rocky transition to self employment".
Brady: So you kind of said to yourself, "I'm, you know, I'm not-, I'm going to gonna like, not eat well or ex- or, um, you know, not exercise and you made a conscious decision to do that,--
Grey: Yes.
Brady: --it wasn't that things got away from you, you just sort of said, "I'm doing it", you know, "I'm gonna be unhealthy".
Grey: That- that is exactly right. That was-
Brady
Grey: [chuckles] Is it? [chuckles] Um...
Brady: I mean, I- I am unhealthy, I am that person too, but, I always tell myself, "I'm not going to--"
Grey: Okay, okay, right, so- but so this is- this is exactly it, right? Like, I am- I'm very interested in, uh, sort of, the science around decision making and- and cognition, and there's a lot of evidence that points to those kinds of thoughts in the back of your mind, the sort of like, feeling guilty that you are not acting in a healthy way, that that really erodes decision making in other areas over a long period of time. And so, I- I can honestly say that it was kind of- it was kind of a liberating experience to be able to say, "Look, I'm just going to- this light bulb is going off, right? At some point in the future we're going to reevaluate that situation", and for me that is now this time. Um,--
Brady: You realize this isn't a good thing though. Like,--
Grey
Brady: --like, like deciding to do something that's bad for you... doesn't make a good for you.
Grey: No, [chuckles] I'm not- [chuckles] no, no no, uh... you're making me sound like a crazy person. You- [chuckles] -you are the--
Brady: [chuckles] Well, all right, all right.
Grey: --you are the one making me sound that way, not me,--
Brady: Okay, all right.
Grey: --not my words out of my mouth. Um, what I mean is- is that I was- I was choosing not to feel guilty about a lack of exercise or particular food choices.
Brady: Okay.
Grey: I wasn't making a positive decision that said, you know, "chocolate cake every day all day", right? That's- that's a different kind of thing. But if- if I was just grabbing, like, some junk food for a snack, I wasn't going to feel guilty about that. And,--
Brady: But that doesn't stop those calories going in your body,--
Grey: No.
Brady: --or heart disease developing, or weight going on, just because--
Grey: No, not at all,--
Brady: Yeah, okay.
Grey: --right? I totally agree, right? And- and that is- that is like a consequence that has to be paid for a particular decision.
Brady: Yeah.
Grey: And, also, over roughly the past two years, so we're talking like my huge career,--
Brady: Mm.
Grey: --I would say that my friend light bulb has been turned down to maybe, like, five percent of energy,--
Brady: Hmm.
Grey: --which is shamefully low. Um, and I feel guilty about not having spent enough time with people that I would want to spend time with, and, also, my wife light white- my wife light bulb has been lower than it should have been, right? Sort of the family light bulb.
Brady: Yeah.
Grey: But that was all because I was putting a lot of energy into the work. And I honestly don't think if I hadn't made conscious decisions to turn down putting energy into these other areas and not feeling guilty about it, I'm not sure that I would have been successful on YouTube in the necessary timeframe. And, I don't think that my decisions are necessarily good advice, for- generally for people to take, right? I'm- I'm not sitting here and advocating "everybody should put all of their energy into work",--
Brady: Hmm.
Grey: --but I was in a particular situation where I needed YouTube to become self sustaining within a particular period of time, and I don't think if I had divided my mental and physical energy across a whole bunch of fields, that that would have happened in the right timeframe.
Brady: Okay.
Grey: That's- that is kind of my thought, but I'm- I'm not- my point is that I think, under certain circumstances, it is helpful to think about things in a very conscious, very deliberate way, and to eliminate guilt in other areas of your life if you need to focus on one area very intensely.
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Brady: Well,
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No. I completely agree. It's one of the areas where I think that analogy with light bulbs doesn't pan out perfectly. Because I can't I can't remember where I first heard this analogy, but talking about interpersonal relationships as kind of like bank accounts in the sense that, you know, if you spend time with someone, you're kind of investing into this friendship bank account. And there may be times when you're not available, or you're not being a good friend, and you can kind of draw to some extent on those previous investments. But at some point, the bank account runs out. Right and then it is redeemable at that point, right. You reached like friendship bankruptcy. Yeah. And so I I am totally with you on this. I agree. And I think that part of making hard decisions in life is coming to grips with areas in your life, which you're sort of willing to possibly have damage happen. That's why when I was focusing mainly on YouTube, you know, I'm going to probably through the course of this conversation have a bunch of numbers that don't add up to
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I think yeah, it is very hard to be exceptional. If If you are dedicating equal energy across the board, but I also think that that's, that is perfectly reasonable to do. It's, you know, it, it's just a very, I think people should just be aware of the decision. That they're making, right. And so if you if whatever the field of work that you're in, if you want to try to be incredibly successful at that field, you're going to have to make in the beginning, difficult decisions about what other parts of your life or you're going to cut. And I get, I don't know if it's if it's frustrated, but when people talk about, you know, wanting to do something, but not not recognizing or not being willing to give up other areas of their life. That's, that's sort of frustrating for me to observe. And I think that that thinking about those areas very consciously is is helpful, right? If if you're not willing to make the sacrifices, then I think you should also not feel guilty about not doing whatever it is you want to do, right becoming an Olympic skier. Don't feel guilty that you're not working on your Olympic skiing, if you've made like a
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