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{{collapse top|title=Summary}}Brady and Grey talk about Pi Day and Vi Hart's "Anti-Pi Rant" video, comparing Pi and Tau and their feelings towards "celebrity numbers"{{Empty section|date=September 2017}}
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Brady 21:28
And her video for Pi Day today. Like, like all her videos was excellent. I mean, essentially, in a nutshell. I mean, I hope people will watch it if they haven't already seen it. And I'm sure Grey'll pop it in the show notes. Yeah, of course. But in a nutshell, she was saying that Pi is no big deal. It's a very it's a very ordinary. It's an ordinary number like every single other number on the number line. And I guess some of the points she made were really good and educational about you know, there are an infinite number of numbers with repeating digits and things like that. But the tone of the video was Pi's no big deal. What's the big deal with Pi Day, Pi's a nothing number. And she sort of, you know, was attacking or chipping away at a lot of the things people love about Pi. And fair enough and I and like I said I enjoyed it very much. But I do think that Pi is allowed to be special and exceptional. And whether or not we celebrate Pi day, you know, that's just a silly thing, isn't it? But I think it is okay to celebrate Pi and to love Pi. And I love Pi. Now, I want to I've been thinking about why that is. And some of this may be comes back to what you were talking about with kind of this random reinforcement. But I think maybe the, the ordinariness and the complete and utter arbitrariness of Pi is why we love it. That,
Grey 24:40
Find your
Brady 24:44
Really, I think. I think it's a very human thing to do. Like, you know, like, like, like, like, like how some people have a soft spot for Saturn because it's got rings or, you know, we we look for little-
Grey 25:00
That is different I just think you description of, of I Oh, there's others there's all these poor numbers milling around and like we as a society have taken this one number and and raised him up to celebrity status and he was the he was the lucky guy in the right place at the right time. I don't know I find that that whole description very hard to relate to and very
Brady 25:24
I want to know what do you think do you think, do you subscribe to you know, what's the big deal with
Grey 25:33
you well okay you
Brady 26:50
And I had a lot of I had a lot. It was thought provoking for that reason.
Grey 26:52
Yeah, it was good.
Brady 26:55
But I still think it's okay to to love Pi and think it's special.
Grey 26:59
Okay, so now
Brady 27:23
Wow. That is impressive. That is impressive.
Grey 27:25
It sounds impressive, it is not as impressive as actually sounds, because I was using, you know, there's memory techniques for this kinds of things where you can transform digits into words and then the words into sentences. And so it's not as hard as it as it actually sounds to memorize an arbitrary sequence of digits. You know, this is this is basically a technique that I learned for school and to memorize stuff. And so then I was just, you know, just doing this as as a as a boredom kind of thing, and I thought Pi was was cool, right? Because I'm, I was a nerdy High School guy. And I never came across Tau until some point when I was in college. I don't remember exactly when. But some math professor brought it up.
Brady 28:16
This is
Grey: 28:17
Yeah. Yeah.
Brady 28:19
Which some people argue is a more obvious constant to use.
Grey 28:22
Yeah. So basically, I think the, to sum it up,
Brady 30:53
Well, there was some good there are some good videos on there are some good
Grey 31:16
Well, I think celebrity numbers, I know what you mean. So think it's a funny term. I mean, I would say I am, I am for it. You know, for example, I love the fact that there is a Pi
Brady 31:43
And it's Einstein's birthday of course.
Grey 31:44
Oh is it? I did not know that.
with it. I did not know that. So yeah, I'm in favor of celebrity numbers. I know I can't conceive of of a reason not to be and if you know if people really like pie, I think I think I think maybe part of the celebrity of pi is that it is an interesting looking number, right? Whereas towel looks too much like a tea and the imaginary number is an eye symbol. It's a cool symbol. Yeah, it's a very cool symbol. Or if people who've been following me on Twitter know that I have been re working my way through the wire, the TV series series for probably the fourth or fifth time now, man, that's a good show. Yeah, man, I could talk about that forever. And there is a character in the second season who has a PI tattoo on the back of his neck. And I was wondering if this is I assume that maybe it's the actors tattoo. I was I was always kind of curious about that. Cuz it's a detail that as the striking in the second season, and seems a little bit out of place. But yeah, the PI symbol is just cool. So I can see why it is it is more prominent as a feature or it looks cool on movie posters. You know, if you want to have something mathy you put a pie up there, it's immediately recognizable. Whereas lots of other mass symbols. They're just using boring old regular letters, you know, and it's that's that's not as interesting. But yeah, so I I'm in favor of,▼
Brady 31:45
Mhmm, I believe so
Grey 31:46
So yeah, I'm in favor of celebrity numbers. I know I can't conceive of of a reason not to be and if you know if people really like Pi, I think I think I think maybe part of the celebrity of Pi is that it is an interesting looking number, right? Whereas Tau looks too much like a T and the imaginary number is an i.
Brady 31:58
It's a cool symbol, its a cool symbol yeah.
Grey 32:00
It's a very cool symbol. Or if people who've been following me on Twitter know that I have been re working my way through The Wire, the TV series series for probably the fourth or fifth time now.
Brady 32:11
man, that's a good show.
Grey 32:12
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Brady 33:01
Grey 33:16
No, I'm in favor of
Brady 33:21
I mean, it's an analogy isn't that you get that
Grey 33:31
Brady 33:34
That's exactly what I was about to say
Grey 33:56
Haha, I think I've been beaten to it.
▲You should read his book.
Grey 34:00
Brady 34:04
Yeah, right. What's going on with you? I think I think we have even for a celebrity number we have given
Grey 34:10
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