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Brady: I- well I was going to amaze you and say that I have prepared notes,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm?
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[HI theme]
 
Brady: So, since we last spoke,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --much has happened.
 
Grey: Yes!
 
Brady: Much has happened, and I know we traditionally start with what I always accidently call feedback, but you call follow up--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --and this is going to be a very exciting follow up,-
 
Grey: Oh yes?
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Grey: Yes, it is.
 
Brady: So it's no longer- it's no longer just you correcting yourself and flogging yourself on mistakes you've made,--
 
Grey: Hmm...
 
Brady: --you can now flog yourself for mistakes other people have found.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm, yes, that's true I can- I can get feedback from, uh, everybody out there in the world, but yes, it is- it is public, it is out there, uh, which is a big relief to finally have it kind of out in the world instead of just, uh, a little project between the two of us. Um, so what are some of your- what are some of your notes then? Let's start out with your preparations. What have you done?
 
Brady: Well, I thought we might event- maybe talk about some of the content of the episodes, but first deal with some of the sort of general--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --feedback and follow up.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
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Brady: I mean it's mainly been um, you know, people saying how wonderful you are, which is fair enough. But uh...
 
Grey: There are Brady fans! I have seen--
 
Brady: Yeah, yeah...
 
Grey: --I have seen in the comments Brady fans.
 
Brady: Yeah, there are a couple out there, but there isn't- there has been a criticism of me,--
 
Grey: What is that?
 
Brady: --and I'd like to- I'd- and I- I think it's something worth addressing,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --or discussing at least.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: -andAnd this was this feeling that it's basically me asking you a bunch of questions,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --and- and you talking a whole lot.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
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Grey: Oh yeah? What do you have to discuss about that? I- I'm curious from your perspective.
 
Brady: Well there's a few points,--
 
Grey: Yeah?
 
Brady: --the first point is I completely agree,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --it is- it is for the most part me just askasking you questions, but I think that's kind of the way it should be to a large extent, and I mean you and I discussed this before we even started, the nature of whether or not, you know, I'm asking you questions and,- and how much I rabbit on myself,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --and- and for the record, I mean, you've always- you've always said you want to hear a lot from me,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --you know, you don't just want me to ask you questions. But, I think it was always going to be that way, this plays to our strengths. This is- this is the way we are isn't it? I mean, you are like a talker, communicator-type-person, I mean you used to be a teacher for goodness sake.
 
Grey: Yeah.
 
Brady: And I am a question-asker, you know,--
 
Grey: And-
 
Brady: --and I'm- I'm a journalist by training, so, you put two of us in a room, one guy he has lots of things to say, and knowledge, and likes to communicate it, and another guy hewho likes to, like, ask questions and find things out from people,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --of course it's going to- it's going to happen now isn't it?
 
Grey: Yeah, I- I think you're- you're partly right, and part of the reason that- that I wanted to work with you on this is I do think that you are the best interviewer person I have ever come across. Uh, and for the- for those of you who have ever seen Brady's YouTube videos, uh, you know, he's always interviewing somebody else and he does the editing, and he often cuts out his own questioning part, but I have've- I have seen it happen live a couple of times, uh, and you really work some magic with the interviews, like, that- that is just your skill. Um, but even when we're just hanging out and just talking not recording, you know, if we're just, you know, having a- a drink together or something, you're still the same way, like that- that is fundamentally your personality is to ask questions. Uh, and it's- it's funny to hear you describe me as a talker because I normally think of myself as a very quiet and reserved person because I spend most of my time not talking, but I am also completely aware that I can- I can get on a roll that is just a little too long, and so I can- I can definitely need someone to help--
 
Brady: [chuckles]
 
Grey: --guide me through the parts that are terribly uninteresting, uh...
 
Brady: I mean, you are- you are a quiet person, and you are, like a reserved guy, that's true, but once you're with your mates and people you're friendly with, I think, you're- you're pretty comfortable talking.
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Grey: Yeah, then I blossom.
 
Brady: I did- I did read one comment in a review though that I did find funny,--
 
Grey: Yeah?
 
Brady: --where someone sort of said that they felt like I was here to ground you.
 
Grey: Yes!
 
Brady: Which is--
 
Grey: I saw that- I saw that same one,--
 
Brady: Yeah.
 
Grey: --and I thought "that is exactly right", I think--
 
Brady: Really? I th- I- I see- I found it funny for another reason 'cause you- you must be one of the most calm, grounded people I know. Whereas I'm, you know, I'm a bit all over the place. So the idea of- the idea of me grounding you actually made me chuckle, whereas your normally sort of the calming influence inand the- someone who gives me good advice and things that, so, I like the idea of meeting this calming influence all of a sudden. Anyway- anyway, that- they were the things I had to say about the, uh,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Brady: --the questioning. What have you thought? What have you- you've been obviously ragingreading through some of the, you know, early comments and the feedback, has anything sort of, uh, caught your eye?
 
Grey: Um, yeah, I mean, its- it's been interesting. Uh, it's always really nerve racking when you have a new project, and you want to launch it out into the world and see what people think about it. Uh, and I have to say it has been a much more positive experience than I was expecting. Um, like we were doing really well in the download numbers, and uh, we're just getting a lot of positive comments, and we have a- a ton of positive reviews on iTunes, and if you want to discuss any of these episodes in particular or to leave a- a comment on one of the episodes, uh, for now we're having all of the discussion happening on my subreddit, so if you go to Reddit (R-E-D-D-I-T) dot-com, slash-R (the letter R) slash-C-G-P-Grey, there'll be a discussion thread in there for each of the episodes that we can put up. Um, and if you want to leave feedback, for now that is probably one of the best places to do so, um, I do go through that and- and read all the comments and I'm very interested to see what people- uh, what people have to say about, uh, this little project so far.
 
Brady: You're really interactive there too, I've noticed. I think- I think we might talk about sort of comments and feedback later--
Brady 6:06 ▼
you're really interactive there, too. I've noticed I think I'm thinking we might talk about sort of comments and feedback later when we get time. But I have noticed on the subreddit, you're very, you're very interactive. It's a, you know, with the, with the people with the community,▼
 
Grey 6:19 Mm-hmm.
as well. Yeah, I do. That's one of the reasons why I'm very happy to direct feedback to read it. Because unlike YouTube, and unlike other places, I find it really manageable to try to have conversations with a larger number of people. We do have it scheduled at some point, I want to talk about comments systems in general. So I don't want to discuss that too much right here. But the short version is that it's really easy on Reddit to get a sense of what people are saying and to have feedback and interactions with a bunch of people. So I think it's, I think is the best place to go for now.
 
Brady: --if 6:53we get time,--
It's a good community to the Reddit community. Like it's like, you know, you'll get you'll get funny stuff and you'll get love and your Hate but it's always quite smart and quite a quite like the they seem like good people on Reddit in a lot of ways. They seem like less than that my kind of people when I read the comments there, as opposed to comments and a lot of other social media.▼
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker 7:13
Yeah, it's as, as with absolutely everything it always depends on the section that you're going but I would agree with you as a general statement. Actually, that's true. My Reddit, my I'm quite narrow and my Reddit in the subreddit security So yeah, I should be careful what I say.
 
▲you're really interactive there, too. I've noticed I think I'm thinking we might talk about sort of comments and feedback later when we get time.Brady: But--but I have noticed on the subreddit, you're very, you're very interactive. It's a, you know, with the, with the people with the community,.
Brady 7:28
 
Let me ask you about something else. The Hello internet logo.
Grey: [chuckles] Yes, well, yeah, I do. That's one of the reasons why I'm- I'm very happy to, uh, direct feedback to Reddit, because unlike YouTube, and unlike other places, I find it really manageable to try to have conversations--
 
▲Brady 6:06 Mm.
 
Grey: --with a larger number of people.
 
Brady: Mm-hmm.
 
Grey: Um, we do have it scheduled at some point I want to talk about comments systems in- in general, so I don't want to discuss that too much right here, but--
 
Brady: Yeah.
 
Grey: --the- the short version is that it's really easy on Reddit to get a sense of what people are saying and to have, uh, feedback and- and interactions with a bunch of people, so, um, I think it's- I think it's the best place to go for now.
 
▲Brady: It's a good community, totoo, the Reddit community. Like it's- like, you know, you'll get- you'll get funny stuff and you'll get love and youryou'll Hateget hate, but it's always quite smart and quite- aI quite like the- they seem like good people, on Reddit, in a lot of ways. They seem like, lesswell, thanthey thatseem like my kind of people when I read the comments there, as opposed to comments and a lot of other social media.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, it's- as- as, uh, as with absolutely everything it always, uh, depends on the section that you're going, but I would agree with you--
 
Brady: Yeah...
 
Grey: --as a general statement.
 
Brady: Actually, that's true. My Reddit, uh, my- I'm quite narrow and my Reddit--
 
Grey: Yeah.
 
Brady: --in the subreddits I go to. So yeah, I should be careful what I say. Let me ask you about something else.
 
Grey: Mm-hmm?
 
Brady: The Hello Internet logo.
 
Grey: You mean the- the artwork?▼
 
Brady: Yeah, the little,- the little,- the little h H-I,. I know.- I know. Youyou sort of sent me a few ideas beforehand and, you know, then you kind of just went off and did your thing., but--▼
 
Grey: [laughs] I- I believe what happened was I saidsent toyou them, you didn't like them, and then I used it anyway. I think that, is actually the process by which that unfolded.--▼
 
Brady: [giggles]
 
Grey: [laughing] --I think that- that is actually the- the process by which that unfolded.
 
Brady: I, uh, I don't mind- I quite like- I quite like the H-I one you've gone with,--
 
Grey: Mm-hmm.
 
Grey 7:32
▲You mean the artwork?
 
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Brady 7:34
▲Yeah, the little, the little, little h I, I know. I know. You sort of sent me a few ideas beforehand and you know, then you kind of just went off and did your thing.
 
Grey 7:43
▲I believe what happened was I said to them, you didn't like them and then I used it anyway. I think that is actually the process by which that unfolded.
 
I quite like I quite like the HCI when you've gone withBrady: --and I'm quiet because I sometimes look at it. You know when you look at something from For a long time, you suddenly see it differently. And I suddenly see the the, the sort of the gray lines going up into the white blocker to make the the high and stuff like that. I'm not too sure about that little border you've got,▼
Brady 7:52
▲I quite like I quite like the HCI when you've gone with and I'm quiet because I sometimes look at it. You know when you look at something from For a long time, you suddenly see it differently. And I suddenly see the the, the sort of the gray lines going up into the white blocker to make the the high and stuff like that. I'm not too sure about that little border you've got,
 
Grey 8:12
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